BE A BALLER -"Building a lifelong legacy"
On Be a Baller Podcast, host Coach Tim Brown and his guest will talk about how to be intentional about building a lifelong legacy for your family, your community, and the world. Guest include individuals who have through the years have built a legacy in ministry, business, sports, and community service. BAB Podcast guest are committed to the "Wisdom Pledge" of paying forward and sharing wisdom to empower the next generation.
BE A BALLER -"Building a lifelong legacy"
Archie Griffin: College Football only Two-Time Heisman Trophy Winner - Faith, Family, and Building a Lasting Legacy in Football and Life
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What if you could learn the secrets of a two-time Heisman Trophy winner? Join us on the Be A Baller Podcast as we welcome the legendary Archie Griffin a two-time Heisman Trophy winner.
Faith, leadership, and legacy are central themes in Archie's life. Reflecting on the role of nightly prayers and gratitude, he discusses how these practices influenced his decision to play for Ohio State University. Despite initial doubts, pivotal moments with Coach Woody Hayes and a grounded approach to life led Archie to success both on and off the field. He emphasizes character, fairness, integrity, and the "three Ds" of desire, dedication, and determination.
Explore his inspiring journey from a sports-oriented family in Columbus, Ohio, to becoming a college football icon at Ohio State University. Discover the invaluable lessons Archie learned from his upbringing, his memorable experiences playing under coach Woody Hayes, and the significance of dotting the "I" in the Ohio State University Marching Band.
Family values and sports played pivotal roles in shaping Archie's resilience and determination. Listen as he recounts personal anecdotes from playing multiple sports at Blackburn Playground and how his family emphasized both education and athletics. Archie shares heartwarming stories of early sports participation, the importance of teamwork, and the lifelong lessons that athletic competition instilled. From the rigorous laps of organized football to his siblings' academic successes, he paints a vivid picture of the foundational experiences that molded Archie into a champion.
Archie Griffin's life has been committed to building a lasting legacy, his work ethic, and his desire to be remembered for his principles and unwavering dedication to helping others.
I can feel good on the inside. I mean, sometimes you got to make some decisions that you know People might not like Right, but at the same time, if you do it in a way that you would want people to do it to you, then you can feel good about the outcome, and to me that's that's so important. That's one of the principles that I think of First thing when I'm in the leadership position Make sure that I treat people the right way, treat people the way that I want to be treated. If I was in that situation, and that that always helped me out tremendously, that's great.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Be A Baller Podcast where we discuss how to build a lifelong legacy. I'm your host, coach Tim Brown. Today I'm excited to have in studio with me the only two-time Heisman Trophy winner, archie Griffin. Today on the show, archie will share his experience growing up in a sports family and playing for the legendary football coach, woody Hayes. Archie is a true man of faith and we'll talk about the role faith has helped him become the godly and humble man he is today. Archie is now, and always has, been committed to paying it forward and helping others. Archie, welcome to Be a Baller podcast.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you, Appreciate you having me Tim.
Speaker 2:I'm excited to get you in here. I didn't know if I could get you in here the way you was dancing on that feet, or when you dotted that.
Speaker 1:I. I'll tell you what, man. That was a busy day and, quite frankly, it was a wonderful day, I mean because I never expected any of that to happen, certainly with the dotting of the I I mean only a very few amount of people have ever done that outside of the band members and then with the statue dedication. So that's something I never really expected and it ended up being just a wonderful thing for myself, along with my family, because I don't know if you remember, but we were out to Pasadena, california.
Speaker 1:Because, they did the same statue out at the Rose Bowl and the whole family went out and just had a marvelous time there in Pasadena. It was really a fun time. And then to come back here and do it here two weeks later. It was a rough go, but we had a bunch of fun big time fun.
Speaker 2:Good, good good. No place like home. No place like home, you know. Speaking of that, I know family is important to you. Can you talk about growing up in Columbus and the life lessons you learned from your parents?
Speaker 1:Okay, look, I come from a fairly large family. I've got six brothers and a sister. My three older brothers were all born in West Virginia. I was the first to be born here in Columbus at the Ohio State University Hospital, and growing up it was fun. I mean, having three older brothers to look up to really made a difference in my life.
Speaker 1:My oldest brother, jimmy, went to East High School and you know I can remember as a kid going to East High School watching Jimmy play football at Harley Field. They had some great teams back then and what I really remember about that is watching East High School's band. Our band was really, really exciting to watch but they had some good high school football teams and they won a city championship during the time that my brother Jimmy was there. And then the example that he was when he left high school he went on to college at Muskingum College, and that set an example for all of us to follow. Because as I was growing up, my folks, they had priorities for us. I mean I feel really fortunate my parents, they gave us priorities, lived by one of those priorities it was. The second priority was for all of us to get an education, a college education and to see Jimmy go to college really set an example for the rest of us, because after that my brother Larry, who graduated from Lyndon McKinley, he went on to University of Louisville.
Speaker 1:Then my brother Daryl, who graduated from Eastmore same school I went to went to Kent State and then myself, raymond and Duncan, we all went to Ohio State. And then my youngest brother, keith, went to Miami, florida, and did some great things there. And then my sister Crystal went to Drake University on track scholarship and all of us went to school on scholarship because not only was education important but they also wanted us to participate in athletics. And they wanted to participate in athletics because they felt that athletics it really rounds a person out. It teaches you a lot of valuable lifelong lessons. You know things such as the will to win, coping with pressure, getting along in a team situation, and all those things are so very important because those things help you in life. And so they taught us all those things and they wanted us to learn those things because they felt that they would help us be successful in life.
Speaker 2:That's good. That's good. You know, growing up playing sports was football, your favorite sport.
Speaker 1:People ask me that all the time but quite frankly, the sport that I had the most fun playing was basketball. I always enjoyed playing. I always enjoyed going out shooting basketball and you can shoot basketballs by yourself. It's kind of hard to play football by yourself. So I always had a lot of fun playing basketball. But I played all kinds of sports. I mean, I was not one to just play one sport. When I was in elementary school, you know, we'd go out we lived across the street from Blackburn Playground and we'd go over to the playground and we'd play football on the one field that we had at Blackburn At that time. They had a field, they had a basketball court, they had a swing set and they had a sliding board and that's pretty much all we had at Blackburn at that time and we'd go over there and we'd play all kinds of sports. And one thing I do remember they had a tetherball tetherball bowl.
Speaker 3:We played volleyball.
Speaker 1:But in the summertime when parks and recreation would open up the parks, I mean I'd play everything. I played softball. I played matter of fact, me and a friend. I think we were in fourth. I was in the fourth grade, third or fourth grade. We won the city four-square championship.
Speaker 3:So we did all kinds of things I loved playing tetherball and basketball and we just did it all softball.
Speaker 1:As a matter of fact, columbus used to have age limits when you could come into the park and I was probably too young, but they would always let me in the park because, you know, I had older brothers and my brothers were always in there playing, but Lee Williams, I remember Lee Williams would allow me to come into the park and he let me play on the softball team, which I was probably too young to play on then, but he let me play on it and I loved the experience that I had over there at Blackburn because I learned a lot from certainly my brothers, but all the other kids that were over there too, because we did all kind of things in Blackburn on Blackburn Playground that really helped me in growing up to be an athlete and growing up to be an athlete because I felt that those kids at that time were good athletes and I wanted to be able to compete with them and was able to do that on a number of occasions and it worked out very, very well for me.
Speaker 1:As a matter of fact, when I was nine years old, I started playing organized football for the Maryland ACs. I don't know if a lot of people remember Maryland ACs, maryland ACs was a tough team I mean Maryland ACs and the guys were usually between the ages of 11 to 15, 11 to 14, somewhere in there. But I was a little heavy at the time, right, right, right. As a matter of fact, bob Rand, who was the coach a tough coach he kind of reminded me of Woody, as tough as he was. But he would make us run around Maryland Park and Maryland Park man, I thought at the time it was probably two miles in circumference and you know what. It's not that far off really, when you think about it, because I went over there as we were doing this stuff for the statue dedication, all that. I went over to Maryland Park and I looked at Maryland Park and it's not Saunders Park, but I looked at Maryland Park and I said, man, that's a long way to run when you're nine years old.
Speaker 1:And when he'd make us run around the park before practice I would always finish in last place. So one day he said whoever finishes last is going to have to take an extra lap. Well, I said, look here, I can't finish in last place. I can barely make it around this place one time. I just cannot dream of having to try to run around it twice. Well, I remember this day we took off and I jumped out in front of the whole group because I wanted to make sure I didn't finish in the last place. Got to the first corner leading the whole pack, got to that second corner, still leading the whole pack, got to that third corner. The guy started passing me up, got to that last corner and I ended up finishing, true to form, in last place. And all I can remember is Coach Rand waving me on to take that extra lap. And I remember taking that extra lap, struggling, probably walked a bit and I'm sure I did. But when I got through with that laughing, we lined up for calisthenics or exercises and some of the guys were laughing and I asked them what they were laughing about. They said Archie, as you were running around the park, coach Rand kind of gave you a nickname. He called you Tank, he said, because you move so slow, you look like a big German tank just slowly rolling into war. Well, that name, tank, stuck with me for a while and then it became an affectionate name, to be honest with you. But the guys that I played with back then some of them still call me Tank to this day and it was a fun time Because, maryland, I was too young really to be playing for them.
Speaker 1:I got in every game. I didn't play a lot, but I played guard on offense and nose guard on defense and it was a fun time because it made me believe, or it gave me confidence, that I could play with guys older than I was. So when it came time to play with guys my own age, I felt a whole heck of a lot of confidence when I came to play with guys my own age. But it was a great experience. I love playing for the Maryland A's. We never lost a football game there. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget that. But Bob Rand and the coaching staff there, they were great to us as kids. They treated us right, they worked us hard and we won.
Speaker 2:We won. You know you talked about those brothers quite a bit. Can you talk about some of those backyard and competitive?
Speaker 1:battles with those brothers.
Speaker 2:And also who was the best athlete in the family. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, if you had us all together, it would be a big argument right here, because there was competition in the family and when I grew up and I'm not too proud to say I mean I'm not sad about saying it, but I would I wouldn't consider myself, uh, the best athlete, uh, in the family. I mean I uh. I look at my brother raymond. When I was young, the kids in blackburn area, uh, we used to race in the streets, okay, and and and and my brother raymond used to beat me all the time. My younger brother and I used to get teased by the kids. Your younger brother beat you running. Well, he was pretty fast, he was pretty fast, but they used to tease me all the time. But if you talk about athletes, oh man, but Raymond would have been one of the ones that I would consider as one of the best athletes, and I'd also have to consider my youngest brother, keith, as one of the best athletes. Keith didn't go to Ohio State but he ended up going to Miami of Florida where they won their first national championship in Florida back in the 80s, where they won their first national championship in Florida back in the 80s. And then he ended up getting drafted by the Washington Redskins and played there and won a Super Bowl championship. So he had a great career. But I would consider him as one of the best. And then I throw my sister, crystal, in there.
Speaker 1:Crystal, she ran a racing track that I dreaded. I never really wanted to run racing track that I dreaded, I never really wanted to run it. That was the quarter. She was a good track athlete, ran for Drake University and did a wonderful job. But all my brothers were good athletes. I mean again, somebody else would consider the other ones better athletes probably, but there were a lot of good athletes. We competed against each other. We had fun. I mean we'd get in the streets and we'd run 50 yards, 60 yards, seeing who's the fastest. The whole works and there was a lot of fun doing that. But I got teased a lot when my younger brother, ray, would beat me running and I always remembered the guys teasing me about that. So it gave me a little extra motivation to do other things a bit better. I knew that it wasn't only running, that the counter is how you approach the game, how you approach how your attitude was when it comes to the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know I know sports has been a big part of your life, but also know that you are a strong man of faith. Yes, I know that you're involved with Fellowship of Christian Athletes and other Christian ministries. Can you share with the audience your faith journey?
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, faith has always been a big part of my life. It starts with my parents. I mean, like I said, I was very fortunate to come from a large family and my parents were the type that gave us priorities to live by. I shared a couple of them earlier, but that first priority was for all of us to always trust in God. And they wanted us to trust in God because I always said, if God's in control of life, then he's going to help you in any situation that you might find yourself in, and I wholeheartedly believe that.
Speaker 1:So the journey has been through the family all along, but I accepted Christ in my life when I was 13 years old. I remember it was at Bethel AME Church and Reverend Jordan at Bethel AME. At the time we were at a Christian endeavor meeting and he sat down and talked with us about the importance of accepting Christ in our lives, and I remember that it was at that time that I accepted Christ in my life and then next week I got baptized and then we went on from there. But Christ has always been a huge part of my life ever since. But Christ has always been a huge part of my life ever since, and anything that I do, I always think of Christ first, and how would he want me to act in these situations that I come across? And so it's been very, very important to me to have faith.
Speaker 1:I used to get teased by some of my friends in junior high school when they come over and spend the night. You know, I always pray before I go to bed and I'll get out on my knees and I do it to this day and I'll pray before I go to bed. That's just something that I always have done and always will do. But they used to tease me because they said Archie prays so long.
Speaker 1:I said well, at that time I was certainly trying to think of everything I could think about to pray about, and so they used to make a joke about it, but deep down in my heart, that was important to me. I mean, that was important to me. It was important to get down and give thanks, you know, for my family, give thanks for the fact that we had food on our table that we could eat, and thanks for my parents who provided for us. It wasn't easy, but they provided for eight kids. I mean, that's not an easy thing to do, and so I've always been appreciative. And when I get down and pray on my knees every night, that's what I'm doing I'm thanking God for the opportunities that he's given me over the years and thanking him for my family and thanking him for the people I've come in contact with. That's helped me along the way, and thank all the folks that have been a part of my life, because everybody together have made me who I am.
Speaker 2:That's good. That's good. You know you chose to stay home and play football at the Ohio State University. You know kind of what led to that decision first off, and how was it playing for the great, legendary coach Woody Hayes?
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, you know, ohio State was a place that I didn't think I'd ever get a chance to play at, because when I was coming up, Tim, there were not a lot of kids from the Columbus Public Schools that played at Ohio State. A guy that I knew that played at Ohio State was a guy by the name of Larry Wiggins who played at Marion Franklin High School and he was a year ahead of me in school and I remember him going to Ohio State. But when I got to Ohio State there were not many kids that were from the Columbus public schools that was at Ohio State. So coming up I didn't think that Ohio State would really recruit me. I had some brothers who I thought were really good. My brother, larry, who played at Linda McKinley, was an All-State player and Ohio State didn't really recruit him. So I figured they didn't recruit Larry, that they probably wouldn't recruit me, because I thought Larry was as good as they come as far as athletes and running backs in the city of Columbus and even the state of Ohio, because he did make an all-state football team. So I just didn't think that I would be recruited.
Speaker 1:But at Eastmore under Coach Bob Stewart, and there were a lot of interest.
Speaker 1:There was a lot of interest from a lot of schools that would come through Eastmore and look at our athletes. Indiana was one of the places that got a lot of Eastmore athletes so I figured maybe I'd get recruited by Indiana. But my senior year came along and good things started happening. Schools like the team up north started recruiting me and, and Indiana no, not know the name but Purdue just about every school in the Big Ten other than Minnesota, Wisconsin, michigan State did not recruit but all the other schools in the Big Ten recruited me and all the mid American conference schools, pretty much the MAC Conference Schools pretty much recruited me. But I think when that team up north started recruiting me, I think Ohio State got interested, a little more interested anyway, and I say that because I used to sit on a board with Bo Schembechler, the National Football Foundation, the College Hall of Fame, and Bo used to tease me all the time. He said you know, woody would have never recruited you if I hadn't recruited you first.
Speaker 1:And I didn't think about that.
Speaker 1:But you know, maybe it was true, I don't know. But the fact that Ohio State recruited me was special, because when I was a kid living in the Linden area, some of us would go walk over to the stadium on some Saturdays and we'd be outside the stadium and and go through all the pageantry that people would go through on game day. We didn't get into the game although a couple of times they let us in but we would be there. But it was something that I never thought would really happen. But it did happen and I'm so glad that it did. And I'll never forget when Woody started recruiting me. I remember I was in wrestling season, my senior year, and he called the wrestling coach up to ask if he could speak with me over the phone. I was in the locker room and coach came to get me out of the locker room and told me that Woody Hayes was on the phone and I didn't quite believe him. And so I went in there, got on the phone with coach Hayes and I got on the phone. We had a good conversation and that same evening he invited me to dinner at his favorite restaurant, a place called the Highlight that was on the north side of Ohio State's campus and I remember how excited I was when he invited me there because that told me that he was really interested in me playing at Ohio State.
Speaker 1:I went home that night after I got through with wrestling practice, got dressed up, went to dinner, had a great dinner with him, had good conversation with him. But, to be honest with you, at the end of the dinner I was a little bit disappointed. Went home that night my dad, who worked three jobs, came home late, as he would always do because of those number of jobs that he worked. My mother told him that I had dinner with Coach Hayes. My dad woke me up, asked me how the dinner went with Coach Hayes and I told him. I said, daddy, you know I don't think he wants me to play football for him. He said why do you say that? I said because he never said one thing to me about football. He said well, what did he talk about? I said all evening all he talked about was an education and how important it was's going to get out on the field and run for a lot of yards or score touchdowns for him.
Speaker 1:Well, right then, I really didn't know, but they continued to recruit me. Coach Hayes Rudy Hubbard was the main recruiter, who was the backfield coach they continued to recruit me and they showed that they were really, really interested. So I decided that I would go to Ohio State and I'm so glad that I did, because in the first meeting that we attended, the first thing that Coach Hayes told all of us as freshmen is that if we were in school for anything else other than to get an education, then we might as well get up and leave his meeting. And that told me something about Coach Hayes. He had this saying he said an athlete without an education could be headed for a bad situation.
Speaker 1:And when you think about that you know, especially at that time, it was so true because a lot of times athletes would go to college just to get the opportunity to play in the professional ranks, not realizing that there's only a very small few that's going to make it from college to the professional ranks. I mean, if you ever look at those numbers, I think you will find that they're truly astounding. I mean, if you ever look at those numbers, I think you will find that they're truly astounding. Back, even at that time, you know you had about 28 teams in the NFL and at that time you had 12 rounds of draft. So 28 times 12, that's 336 athletes, and you had about 60,000 athletes playing college football. So 336 out of 60,000, not very good odds. You're going to make it. And then it even slimmed down even a little bit more later on, because now there's only seven rounds of draft with 32 teams. So you've got 224 athletes being drafted and you still have 60,000, 70,000 guys playing college football.
Speaker 1:So the point that he made to us was that you had to have something else to fall back on, and that fallback position that he referred to was a good education, good skill. You get out and be able to provide for your families. And that impressed me when Coach Hayes talked about education in front of football. But he he really meant that and he would always ask us about how we're doing in the classroom. He would keep track of what was going on in that classroom. So it meant a lot to me that he cared about what was happening in that classroom, not only what was going on on the football field, but what was happening in that classroom, because he knew that that was going to be our key to having success in our future.
Speaker 1:But he was a great man. I mean you know you talk about having to play for him. I mean he was great to play for. He really was. I knew that he cared about me. I knew that he was going to give me an opportunity. I knew that he cared about each and every person on that team.
Speaker 1:But what I really liked most about him was that he talked to us about something that really impacted my life, and that's paying forward.
Speaker 1:I'll never forget he got it from Ralph Waldo Emerson's essay on compensation, where it says you can never pay back the good that someone may have done for you, but you can always pay forward by helping somebody else or doing something in your community. And Coach A's not only talked about that, but he did it. You know that term, pay it forward. You know, when I was in college, from a freshman throughout my senior year, you know he'd talk about paying forward. Then all of a sudden I see a movie called Pay it Forward. Then you see all these signs saying pay it forward. But he pushed that and I really believe and I could be wrong, but I really believe that he is the guy and that's what he did. He gave it to me as a gift and that was a big burden off my shoulder. So you know, regardless of how it happened, or if it would not have happened, I'd have been fine with it Right, because the Lord was going to make it right.
Speaker 2:Well, you're in here preaching. You're in here preaching that's a good word. I know it's been a busy fall for you. You've been out in Pasadena you mentioned earlier with the Rose Bowl statue. Then you come home in Ohio State Rotunda, Then you get to dot that. I we saw you at the game. It looked like you didn't want to come out that field.
Speaker 1:We saw you at the game and looked like you didn't want to come out that field.
Speaker 2:We were so happy. What was it like being?
Speaker 1:back on that field. Oh, it was great, man. I mean you know, just to be out there and be amongst the players, even walking around that field, I mean it's amazing, you know you don't think about it while you're playing, because you just don't think about it, because you're an athlete. When you got them big old dudes out there, man, big old dudes. And you wonder, man, was I taking those kind?
Speaker 3:of hits.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's all that that comes to your mind, but it was fun being out there and watching the guys play, knowing that they're having a lot of fun and having a good time playing for the Ohio State University, because that's something that is very special to have that opportunity to do play for Ohio State.
Speaker 2:You know, after your playing days you came back to the Ohio State University, served in the athletic department and then with the alumni department as director. Can you tell the audience, particularly young people, how important good character is All.
Speaker 1:Character is everything I mean. You know you want to make sure that you treat people right, and that's one of the lessons that my folks always taught us. The golden rule do unto others as you want them to do unto you. Treat people right is basically what it says to me, and that's been one of my leadership principles. You know, my main principle is if you've got an organization like I had at the Alumni Association, if you've got an organization like I had at the Alumni Association, I want to make sure that every employee that I had, I wanted to make sure that they knew that I was going to treat them right, that I was going to be fair to them.
Speaker 1:One of the reasons that I love Coach Woody Hayes is that, no matter how tough he was, I knew that he was going to be fair, that he was going to treat you right, and that's that's so important. So I always felt that if I treated people right, then I can feel good on the inside. I mean, sometimes you got to make some decisions that you know People might not like Right, but at the same time, if you do it in a way that you would want people to do it to you. Then you can feel good about the outcome, and to me that's so important. That's one of the principles that I think of. First thing when I'm in the leadership position is make sure that I treat people the right way, treat people the way that I want to be treated. If I was in that situation and that always helped me out tremendously- that's good.
Speaker 2:You know. This has been great. I'm loving these stories. We kind of come around the corner. This is a legacy podcast. You have truly built a lifelong legacy. So what does that word legacy mean to you, and what is the legacy of Archie Griffin?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a great question, tim. Well, the word legacy means to me you know how you would want people to think of you actually, when you're no longer around. You know, when people hear your name, what would you want them to think about? And when I think about that, what I just mentioned would be one of the things that I would like to leave as an exit that he treated people right, that he tried to do the right thing. Maybe it didn't come out the way that other people would have wanted it to come out, but that he tried to do the right thing. So treating people right is certainly one of those legacies and things I would want people to think about me when I'm gone, but I also want them to think about my work ethic. I think that's important.
Speaker 1:I was so very fortunate when I was in junior high school at Linn-Moore Junior High School, to come across a man by the name of Oscar Gill. He was a counselor for Linn-Moore. He was an advisor for our student council. We called it HELP H-E-L-P Helpers Engage in Linn-Moore's Progress and I was president of that organization. But I remember him sitting down with us at a meeting and talking with us about some things he thought would help us be successful in life, and what he talked about was what he called the three Ds desire, dedication and determination. And I remember telling us that if we'd apply those three D's to anything that we want to do in life, then we can be successful.
Speaker 1:He said desire you have to, once out of life, set goals for yourself. Dedication be committed to achieving those certain goals. And determination being able to overcome the obstacles that might somehow get in your way. And I remember him telling us that if we'd apply those three D's to anything that we want to do, then we can always feel good about ourselves. And we can feel good about ourselves because if we use those three D's, in essence what we've done is we've given a total commitment, and nobody can ask anybody to do anything more than to give a total commitment. And so when you talk about legacy, I want people to know that the things that I did in life, I tried to give a total commitment. I did it those things with those three D's that desire, dedication and determination in mind. I might not have had the result that was better than somebody else's, but I did it with those three D's in mind, meaning that I did the best that I could possibly do, and that's all anybody can do.
Speaker 2:Right, that's great, that's great, wow, thanks.
Speaker 3:Thanks for that.
Speaker 2:This brings us to the end of this episode. Thanks to our special guest, ohio State football and college football great, archie Griffin, for sharing his wisdom of life lessons learned on the field and off the field. Thank you, archie, for being an example, not just in talk but in action, an example for the next generation on how to build a lifelong legacy in faith and in service, to uplift others and paying it forward. So I want to thank you for being on the show.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you. I appreciate you having me man. I certainly enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:That's for sure. I want to thank the audience for joining us during this enlightening and informed discussion on building a lifelong legacy. Hope this episode was beneficial to you, as always. Thanks for listening to Be A Baller Podcast.
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