BE A BALLER -"Building a lifelong legacy"
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Our guests will be individuals who have built a legacy in various fields – ministry, business, sports, and community service. And what's unique about our guests is that they're committed to the Wisdom Pledge. That means they're not just sharing their own stories and experiences with us, but they're also paying forward and sharing wisdom to empower the next generation.
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BE A BALLER -"Building a lifelong legacy"
Pastor Charlie Davis Passing the Baton: How to Build Something That Continues Beyond You
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What happens when your legacy ends with you? Pastor Charlie Davis believes that true legacy should live on after we're gone, passed to future generations rather than dying with its creator. In this deeply moving conversation, he shares profound insights from over three decades in ministry about building something that outlasts yourself. Pastor Davis new book "Hidden Blessings: Finding Your Passion After Experiencing Pain" is available now on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
Growing up on Columbus's east side, Davis was shaped by a neighborhood where responsibility was shared and every adult could correct any child. With seven uncles and a father who was one of Columbus's first bishops, he witnessed authentic male leadership firsthand. These early experiences formed his understanding of accountability, strength, and provision that would later define his approach to ministry.
Davis doesn't shy away from his personal struggles. From surviving third-degree burns as a toddler to enduring six years of excruciating pain from a spinal condition, his testimony reveals how adversity became the soil for his greatest ministry opportunities. "God has gifted you an opportunity to do something for him today," he shares, "and we must steward it well." This perspective led him to co-chair the Ultimate Resource Network (TURN) and create Mannerism ministry, addressing the crisis of masculine identity.
Perhaps most compelling is Davis's passionate advocacy for "soul care" – a practice he believes is critically missing in today's leadership landscape. Through authentic accountability relationships and spiritual refreshment, he demonstrates how leaders can avoid the pitfalls that have damaged so many ministries and organizations.
Ready to build something that continues beyond your lifetime? Pastor Davis's journey offers both inspiration and practical wisdom for anyone seeking to leave a legacy that truly lives. His book "Hidden Blessings: Finding Your Passion After Experiencing Pain" is available now on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
Something that you implement or something you are in the process of moving, but it is passed to the next generation. It don't die, it continues. It's passed to the next generation. Versus my mind, immediately go to churches and businesses how, once the owner or the one who starts it, once they pass or die, then it ends. We need to be able to pass the baton, business, the ministry, the long life legacy to the next generation. It lives.
Speaker 2:Legacy should live. It should live. That's a good one. Legacy should live.
Speaker 3:Welcome to Be A Baller, where we're building a lifelong legacy for our families, communities and the world. Your host, Coach Tim Brown, is excited for you to join him on this journey. On each episode, we'll be talking about how to be intentional, about building a lasting legacy. We'll be exploring what it means to leave a mark that goes beyond just our lives but has a positive impact on those around us, and even Welcome to Be A Baller. Podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm your host, coach Tim Brown. Thanks for joining me today as we sit down with Pastor Charlie Davis as he shares his inspiring story of faith, perseverance and divine purpose. With over three decades of ministry experience, he's faced challenges and overcome obstacles, yet remains committed to spreading the gospel and empowering others on their faith journey. With a heart for ministry and a passion for empowering others, pastor Charlie has built a reputation as a trusted advisor, mentor and friend to many, from his work as company chaplain at Lindsay Automotive to his leadership roles with East Columbus Business Association and the Ultimate Resource Network. Pastor Charlie is dedicated to serving his community. So let's dive in and hear from Pastor Charlie Davis. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1:Thank you, sir. Good afternoon. Thank you for this opportunity. Glad to be here with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know you're a Columbus Ohio native. Yes, sir yeah, sir yeah, absolutely. Can you talk about back in your day and back in my day, about the importance of the village that raised you in Columbus? Oh, my God, that's a good question.
Speaker 1:I grew up on the east side of Columbus, linwood Avenue, wilson Avenue and you slide down the road. I went to actually I went to Ohio Avenue Elementary and Franklin Junior High. I followed Granville Waiters. I went to Ohio actually I went to Ohio Avenue Elementary and Franklin Junior High. I followed Granville Waiters. I went to Ohio Avenue, franklin Junior High and East High School. And that was the family was right there. We had, I had an aunt live right down the road. In fact it was directly across the street from Granville Waiters and that neighborhood right there raised me, it kept me there and I'm thankful and grateful for what I've learned in that neighborhood.
Speaker 2:Can you talk about some of those life lessons that you learned during that time?
Speaker 1:I learned the importance of friendship, man. We all played ball in the street, we all went to each other's house and at that time, whoever house you was in, the parent that was in the house they took care of that child. So it didn't matter, was they my natural mother or or just a neighbor of the in the area she was allowed to spank you if you was out of order. He was allowed to spank you. If you was out of order, he was allowed to grab you up by the collar. And he was allowed to grab you up by the collar and say, sit down, boy. So that's the kind of neighborhood we grew up in. I think it made us respect our elders. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now think about that. You mentioned a couple of things in there about men, yes, about seeing men. Well, what did you see in, I'm sure, your father being a bishop and just a man? So what did you see in men?
Speaker 1:Well, what I saw is interesting because my father's family as we get into the book it was seven boys and four girls, and my mother's side was seven girls, four boys, so I always had men as uncles around being raised in the household of Bishop CM Davis, which was one of the first bishops in the city of Columbus. I saw leadership, I saw strength. I saw a provider strength. I saw a provider um, non, a no nonsense attitude in our household. Uh, accountability, respect, it was. I mean I can go on with adjectives when I saw that house.
Speaker 2:Good stuff. I also understand you were uh. You were a great athlete in high school as you made it to the uh uh state finals and track. Can you talk about that experience?
Speaker 1:Oh, that experience Again. I went to East High School. I say East High School is the heart of champions there, educational-wise as well as athletes. Some great people came out of East High School. I played basketball all through, from fourth grade through my 11th grade year. Junior high I played baseball and basketball. So when I hit East High School, that's when you start 10th grade.
Speaker 1:So 10th grade, 11th grade, 12th grade, I ran track all three years. My senior year I focused in on track. I didn't play basketball. My senior year I played my 10th and 11th grade and my senior year I focused in on track. I didn't play basketball. My senior year I played my 10th and 11th grade. And my senior year we went to the state and I talk about it in the book as well. We actually won the 440 relay in the state finals. However, by the exchange zone. On a relay you have to make the exchange within the zone and the exchange was done outside a zone with some underclassmen and we end up getting disqualified after winning the race. So that was a heartbreaking disappointment but yet a life learning experience and I share that in the book.
Speaker 2:Well, you're already into the book. We get there. I want to lead up to the book. There's a story behind the book. Yes, sir, it is what inspired you to pursue ministry, and can you recall any pivotal moments in your life that led you to that path? Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Well, the inspiration to ministry is my father. I mean, um, it's not just him, but there's preachers all throughout my family, um, my uncles and my aunts, um, but the most inspirational person was my father. Um, uh, I saw, I, my eyes has witnessed the work of the Lord, my eyes have witnessed the hands of the Lord, the favor of the Lord, and not only that my heart has felt and burned for the things of God. I chased after God because of what I see, my father experience, which was phenomenal. So, yeah, the pivoted time for me is when my father passed in 1999.
Speaker 1:When he passed, before he passed, there was a word, a prophetic word that was given to me while he was living, and this is the one that I stand on, and that was that I, me, I would do greater works in my latter years than what my father did in his early years. And that was that I, me, I would do greater work in my latter years than what my father did in his early years. And that word has stuck with me. I recite that I can be anywhere. Somebody asked me I can recite that because I am now living, that I can see it. Now, tim, I am living in that air that was given.
Speaker 1:That word was given to me in 1990. I'm living it now because look how we make an impact. Even example, right now this podcast can go worldwide. You know my father had a phenomenal ministry in his young years. You know, back in the 70s to have a congregation of 350 or 500 people in a ministry in a church building that was paid off. You had 20 pastors or 20 preachers in his ministry, a male chorus choir, save men of God. In front of me I had a front rope vision pew sitting on the front row pew chair experience of what God has done. But in 1999, when he passed, I go back to that word, a prophetic word, and I began to seek ministry for myself.
Speaker 2:That's powerful. That's powerful. You got to see God firsthand. Can you make this up Seeing?
Speaker 1:people healed, delivered and set free bro, right in front of my very own eyes. Wow, yes, sir.
Speaker 2:You know, your work with the Ultimate Resource Network, TURN, is impressive. Can you explain how TURN supports the community and what inspired you to co-chair this initiative?
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, the Ultimate Resource Network known as TURN. We are on the far east side of Columbus. Our main goal is this. Let's look at the letter T-U-R-N. Of course the T is for the U and theR is, when you look at the branding of it is in the letters of red. Because you are the resource, I am a resource, you are a resource.
Speaker 1:The people that are listening to us right now and watching us right now, they are a resource. So, mr Lindsay, burt Lindsay has been a businessman, but yet a man of faith. He called me and said Charlie, I received a prophetic word, and those who are watching and listening I mentioned prophetic twice already Prophetic word is real. Bert Lindsay received a prophetic word. He called me and said hey, let me share this word with you. I listened to him for about 10 minutes, shared the story and shared the event, and he said I need you to come up with a name. I know it needed to be some type of resource and whatever. So and I said ultimate. And we came up with ultimate resource network. And we were saying the ultimate resource network for about two weeks before we realized it was TURN.
Speaker 1:Now you say, well, what's TURN? Well, mr Lindsey owns a dealership. So it makes sense of car dealerships saying turn. And then we develop a steering committee and our goal is to ensure, is to make a strong impact. Thriving community on the Far East side. We starting in our own backyard and we are spreading abroad, so it is definitely growing. It's been a phenomenal thing. Yes, amen.
Speaker 2:You know, Pastor Charlie, you're known for empowering others in their faith journey. What advice would you give to listeners who want to build a lasting legacy in their community?
Speaker 1:I say you know, we are often hearers of the word but lack doing of the word. So I say this, my advice would be this God is still speaking, he has not stopped. We just don't pay attention and when we do, we just don't obey. I say obey the voice of the Lord and you will find strength in that. I encourage us to become not just hearers of the Word but doers of the Word. We will see our life being transformed. We'll be making impact on others. We will establish wisdom of God in us and revelation of God. So yeah, that's what I recommend. Amen, amen.
Speaker 2:You know you have been involved in a lot of different ministries. Yes, there's one I want you to speak on, and that's the vision of Mannerism men's ministry. Can you talk about that vision and what the goal of that ministry is?
Speaker 1:That's a great question. Thank you for that, because Mannerism was given to me in 2017. And the name Mannerism came from the standpoint of I was watching a particular pastor's testimony and I was listening to a particular pastor's testimony. I was listening to a particular pastor's testimony and he sound. The words that came out of his mouth were powerful, but his mannerisms sound feminine and I was like what in the world is going on here? And then, when I heard his story, there was some trauma in his early life and the fact that he actually reached out for others to be part of their prayer team. So when he went to get the prayer mantle by being part of a prayer team, he was surprised that it was men there. It was women. So, yes, he picked up the prayer mantle, but he also picked up the women's mannerism because there was no men in their praying. So when he was around men, they called him names that was not you-like. They referred to him in women-type names. But as life goes on and he becomes a strong prayer warrior and he shared his testimony. So I got the word mannerism out of hearing what I heard. It wasn't so much of what he said, but what he was saying and I was like mannerism men need to have the mannerism of a man.
Speaker 1:So what we do it also the purpose of it is to combat in the month of June, father's Day weekend is when we have our yearly celebration. It typically goes Thursday night, friday night and Saturday. Then quarterly every three months we have a worship night on Friday night. Then people like yourself, we partner with you, and then that can be Friday night. Worship and FCA would turn mannerism and we have a free movie night and that's a weekend. So yearly in June weekend on Father's Day, then quarterly we have mannerism worship night and we're excited because March 21st will be the first one this year, 2025. And we're going to have a phenomenal worship night at the Rock Church, my home church, 7370 Tutsing Road in Reynoldsburg, ohio.
Speaker 2:You know when you talk about that word mannerism can you share with the audience some of those manners? When we talk about men, what are some of those things that you see in men?
Speaker 1:Let's do something simple. I just celebrated a birthday and we flew my aunt, who is the only one living. She's 83 years old. She walks out to the door of the car and she stands there because she expects a man to open the door and let her in and shut the door. And that's what we do, not only her, all the men in my family. That's what we do. We were raised that way. My wife, you know I'm staying at the door If I ain't there yet you stand at. I don't hit the chirp, chirp and let her in, I and open the door and um, and I shut the door why I am providing the fact that she is in the car, she is being safe. So let's just start with just opening the doors for the ladies. Let's let's start there.
Speaker 2:Let's just start with the basics, the basic, the basic manly things let's share out.
Speaker 1:pull the out. We're supposed to be providers, you know, and protectors Protectors, that's right. Sit with your back facing the door, not with your back, you know, don't. Don't you face the door, Don't, don't have your back to the door, you know? Amen.
Speaker 2:Amen, little things.
Speaker 1:You know, this is a legacy podcast something that you implement or something you are in the process of moving, but it is passed to the next generation. It don't die, it continues. It's passed to the next generation versus I mean I, I'm my mind immediately go to churches and businesses how, once the owner or the one who starts it, once they pass or die, then it ends. We need to be able to pass the baton, which is another chapter in my book, that truck analogy in my book, that truck analogy Pass the baton, the business, the ministry, the, whatever, the long life legacy to the next generation. It lives.
Speaker 2:Legacy should live. That's a good one. Legacy should live. Legacy should live Long after we're gone. It continues on, continues on. Yes sir, much needed work. That work continues on. Yes sir, much needed work. That needs to continue. Yes sir, you know you faced personal and spiritual hardships throughout your life. Can you share one of the most challenging periods you've experienced and how God sustained you through it?
Speaker 1:Almost teared up. Jesus, lord, have mercy. Let's start with the first one. I'm 14 months old. Baby boy being fallen to a tub of scalling hot water and being 70% burned over my entire body at 14 months years of age. You know that was trauma. Now I understand it to be trauma. Going through that To me that was my life, so I didn't know it was trauma until I got older. You know, and I will say this, you know kids can be mean, but I thank God that I didn't experience being bullied or teased or anything of that nature. I thank God for that. That could have scarred me. That again, one of my chapters in my book.
Speaker 1:My life is in the book. But then the second one would be this. I recently Coach Tim, as you know, in 2017, I had surgery. I want to bring awareness to this syndrome that's called Brown-Saquad syndrome, known as BSS.
Speaker 1:I had a cyst crushing my spinal cord and the shorter version of the story is that when it crushed the spinal cord, it did nerve damage. One hospital drained the cysts and they were supposed to remove the cysts. So when they drained the cysts, it actually grew back. So three and a half years later, I'm really in a lot of pain. So for six years, I was in pain. So, to speed the story up, february of 2023 is when I went to I will say this hospital's name, osu as they removed the cysts and then I am no longer in pain. Amen, yeah, yeah. So here's the key.
Speaker 1:Here's the key thing. You know, when people had COVID and they had a mental fog, experienced that mental fog. Imagine that 10 times heightened. That's the type of pain I was in for six years. So when the cyst was removed and I was no longer in pain, my brain stopped focusing on pain and it allowed to function the way it's supposed to. So now I comprehend. You know I'm gathering my thoughts and I'm not having memory lapse anymore.
Speaker 1:So it's been a journey, bro. It has been a journey, but God, god man, he sustained me. It allows me to look back at turn. You say what that got to do with. Well, it made me available. Yes, I pastored my own ministry. I had my own building the four walls. I did that, but God is using me outside the four walls four walls. I know for a fact that I am part of the reason of people having a strong, powerful impact and life-changing transformation through this network that I helped be a part of and start. So that leads me into Charlie. You need to be the co-chair. I'm like yes, sir, no problem To answer that question short. That's why I'm the co-chair.
Speaker 2:Amen, you know, speaking of those events, how has your relationship with God grown over time, particularly in those moments of adversity?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it allowed me to trust Him more. It just my faith increases more. It's not a day that I was going through and I still have some issues, physical challenges now and then but it's not a day that, going through that rough time that I was like I don't want to get out of bed, I don't want to see nobody Shut the door, close the blinds, pull the cover of my head, leave me alone. I didn't have a day of that. I literally woke up like, okay, I got to get going, there's something I got to do. The Lord has me to do something today. Here's my statement that the Lord gift you to see today. He has gifted you an opportunity to do something for him and we must steward it well. Amen, amen, steward it well, Steward it well, we must steward it well. Amen, amen, steward it well, steward it well, we must steward it well.
Speaker 2:You know, as someone who's been in ministry for many years. What wisdom would you offer the young leaders just starting on their faith journey?
Speaker 1:A pastor that you can allow him to sow into you as well as you be honest with them and allow them to critique you in areas that you need constructive criticism. You know areas that you blind spots that you just don't realize that you have. You may be the senior pastor, but then I don't believe a pastor is a pastor if he don't have a pastor that he's reporting to Accountability. I'm just big on accountability. You can be the senior pastor, but then you ought to have a pastor that you are accountable to as well. That will eliminate a lot of issue. And then soul care Soul care that will eliminate a lot of issue. And then soul care soul care, soul care, soul care, bro, soul cares you hear in today's time. You are hearing so many tragical incidents with leadership and if you look at the root of that issue, if they had soul care, they probably wouldn't be in those situations.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, you got to break that down a little bit more than soul care. You left all this hanging on that with that.
Speaker 1:Soul care man, that's a good one. Yeah, I do this. I have referred to my book again. Okay, chapter chapter nine. My brotherhood is 12 of us and I've been with them since 2017. We're accountable to each other. But then not only is the accountability there and we hold each other accountable for it's authentic, but then we go on trips, yearly trip. We've been to the Smoky Mountains in Tennessee for a weekend, thursday, friday, saturday, sunday. We've been to DC twice and this year we are going to Toronto Praise God as long as Canada's going to let us over there in August. But what we do, we wash each other, we get washed in the Lord. You know just, men, we soul care. We're taking care of the soul, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:I like that. I like that. Yes, sir, Can you share a story or a principle that you learned from your father, Bishop CM Davis? Ministry that continues to guide you today.
Speaker 1:A principle. A principle and I refer to this a young lady that used to go to our church when she was a teenager. She just recently passed and her brother in law called me to see if I had heard and that she had passed. I said, man, I used to see her periodically at physical therapy. I would run into her at physical therapy periodically and I said well, you know my condolences and things of that nature. He said, man, I don't know, I had never seen anybody like her. We were all at the hospital and everybody's heads was down, they was crying, and she raised up out of bed this is her last day on earth. Raised up out of bed and said I don't know why y'all got your heads down.
Speaker 1:Bishop Davis told us to be saved. I'm saved, so put a smile on your face. So the principle I have is seek ye first, the kingdom of God, his righteousness and all his righteousness and these other things will be added unto you. So we got to seek God first. Have that relationship with him. Salvation is real. You're going to go. You're going to have eternal life somewhere, either heaven or hell. I know in most churches today we ain't talking about hell, but I'm telling you. You're going to end up one place or the other. Why not go to heaven? Talk, talk. Why not go to heaven? Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:As we come around the corner. We got to get to that book. All right. I know you're an author of a book Hitting Blessings yes, sir, hitting Blessings. Can you talk about the vision behind the book and what inspired you to write this book?
Speaker 1:You know it was so funny when I told people that I wrote the book. I said, hey, the book is out on Amazon and they say, well, it's about time. Like well, you've been talking about it for a long time. I did not realize that I've been saying for quite some time that I wanted to write a book. But this is where the strength of my brothers that I referred to earlier comes in. Several of them have written books. One of the guys that was part of our group has written 16 books and I didn't use him for help, but it was inspiration that I could get it done.
Speaker 1:And the hidden blessings finding your passion after experiencing pain is because of the things that I went through. I use at first the word finding. We played on so many words before that we used to call it re-night restore. Initially it was restore, but as I saw the words hidden, blessings hidden. So when something's hitting, then it needs to be found. So I went with finding your passion after experiencing pain. Yeah, it's just a small glimpse and portion of some things personally that I went through. As we were talking I kept referring back to it because it's real in my life. It's real.
Speaker 2:Let's think about your book. It's real, it's real. Let's think about your book. It's real. It's real, it's real, real experiences. But at the same time you can see the hand of God in all of that. The Bible says all things work together for the good of those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose. Absolutely and truly. You've been called for a purpose and part of those experiences is hitting blessing. You know we're going through it. We don't. We're trying to figure out God. What's going?
Speaker 3:on here.
Speaker 2:You know, but we know what the devil meant for evil, God meant for good man. And look at God and what God has done and continue to do in your life. Can you, can you share with the audience how they can find more information about your book and how they can get involved and support you?
Speaker 1:The book itself is out at Amazon as well as Barnes Noble's. You can go online or it's on the shelves right now, so I'm excited about that. Or, if I mean in this hidden blessings dotcom, um PO Box 81. Um what else? You can reach out to me personally. Uh, I don't mind that. 614-795-2858. Um. Charlie Davis. Um, I'm connected with TURN um, the ultimate resource network that is TURN Community. Um cha is turncommunity Chaplain for the dealership. You know you can reach out to me there. So yeah, and that's charlieatlindsaycom. Yeah, com.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's get it, that'll get you, that'll get you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:This has been a great episode. This brings us to the end of today's episode. Yes, yeah, yeah, this has been a great episode. This brings us to the end of today's episode. I want to thank our special guest, pastor Charlie Davis, for answering the call to ministry and his commitment to serving the community, and I want to thank you for your transparency, just being real on the show, you know, and how that really encouraged someone today. Before we close, can you pray for the audience that's listening to this, someone who might be going through some things that needs to know that God is good and able to do things.
Speaker 1:Yes, hey, I thank you as being a lifetime friend for me as well, and you actually, I shared the book cover with you. I want to say this I shared the book cover with you and you're like man, that is awesome. And I book cover with you and you's like man, that is awesome. And I shared the subtitle. You're like man, that's your book too. I'm like, yeah, you're right, but I don't want to hold on to it.
Speaker 1:I want to put it in this one, so that subtopic is, but there will be a book too, and I thank you for all the encouraging words that you have shared with me and bless me as well. Thank you for your partnership. So, father, I just thank you for the presence that is here right now. Without your presence, we are nothing, so we seek your presence. Thank you for the Be A Baller podcast how you are blessing it. May every guest that comes and be a part and be interviewed that they will be empowered. They will allow them to empower your people. I pray for the station, the studio, the watching and listening audience that they will receive what you have for them. Let their hearts be open, let their minds be open and receive the blessing of the Lord, for you are great and worthy to be praised, and we do praise you. We lift you up, for your name is worthy to be praised in Jesus name.
Speaker 2:Amen, amen. I want to thank our Be A Baller audience for joining us for this episode. As always, please share with family and friends, keep being a baller and build a lifelong legacy of sharing wisdom. Thanks, pastor Davis, for being on the show today.
Speaker 1:Thank you, god bless you.
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