BE A BALLER -"Building a lifelong legacy"

Ralph Smithers Jr. - Building a Legacy Through Community Service

• Coach Tim Brown, Uncommon Life • Season 5 • Episode 16

Share episode

Send us a comment about the Be a Baller Podcast Episode. Thanks for support.

Ralph Smithers Jr., journey from northeast Columbus through Mifflin High School and Ohio State University reveals the power of unexpected paths. Despite being a self-described "C student" and late bloomer physically (just 5'3" and 103 pounds in 9th grade), Ralph found his calling through service and relationship-building. Now leading inclusion, belonging and community engagement at Encova Insurance, he demonstrates how cultivating authentic connections creates ripple effects far beyond what we might imagine.

The conversation takes us through Ralph's foundational influences—parents dedicated to public service, a strong church community that anchored his faith, and the life-changing scholarship that allowed him to graduate debt-free and later create the "Bucking the Trends" scholarship for others. 

What happens when your name is mentioned in a room you're not in? For Ralph Smithers Jr., this question represents the essence of personal legacy. "I hope that you know if my name is spoken in a place that I'm not at, it'll at minimum bring a smile to someone's face or it'll bring like 'hey, that's someone we can trust,'" he shares in this deeply reflective conversation on building a lasting impact. 

What truly distinguishes this episode is Ralph's reflections on legacy-building beyond accolades. His approach to board service intentionally stretches him beyond comfort zones, allowing him to discover new passions while bringing diverse perspectives to each table. "I hope that people would say he saw things in me that I didn't see in myself, and as a result, my life is better," he says, capturing the essence of servant leadership.

Ready to rethink how you're building your own legacy? Join us for this conversation that will challenge you to consider: What will people say when your name is mentioned after you've left the room?

Support the show

Speaker 1:

Our name is ultimately our brand. I always say that if my name is spoken in a room that I'm not in, I hope that it's not attached to a bunch of cuss words. You know that's the first thing, but I hope that you know if my name is spoken in a place that I'm not at, it'll at minimum bring a smile to someone's face or it'll bring like hey, you know that's someone we can trust. That's a place, just like a brand. You know you want brands you can trust that are going to deliver for you and give you the results that you need, and that's what this association, I hope, is.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to Be A Baller where we're building a lifelong legacy for our families, communities and the world. Your host, coach Tim Brown, is excited for you to join him on this journey. On each episode, we'll be talking about how to be intentional about building a lasting legacy. We'll be exploring what it means to leave a mark that goes beyond just our lives but has a positive impact on those around us and even generations to come. So if you're looking for inspiration, guidance and practical tips on how to build a lasting legacy that makes a difference, then you're in the right place. So grab your earbuds, get comfortable and let's dive in. It's time to be a baller.

Speaker 3:

Welcome to Be A Baller podcast. I'm your host, coach Tim Brown, and I'm excited to have in the studio today a young man who's a real Ohio native, graduate of Mifflin High School and also the Ohio State University. This is a Raph Smithers Jr. He's a community leader and corporate professional dedicated to helping others become the best version of themselves. His role at Incova Insurance he leads efforts in inclusion, belonging and community engagement. Covid insurance he leads efforts in inclusion, belonging and community engagement. Ralph is deeply involved in Central Ohio through multiple boards and advisory roles and has been widely recognized for his leadership and service. He lives in New Albany, ohio, with his lovely wife, pam, and the proud father of three young adult children. Get ready to be inspired by a man who's building bridges, creating impact and showing us all what it means to be a real baller. Let's welcome Ralph Smithers Jr to the show. Wow, thank you. You are a real baller man. I read that bio I'm like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell you what. Since we met, I subscribe to the podcast listen to everyone that you've had. I know that I subscribe to the podcast Good good, listen to everyone that you've had. I know that I'm in the presence of greatness and have very, very big shoes to fill with all the people that came before me, and my goal is just not to mess it up.

Speaker 3:

Well, I appreciate that You're right there in this whole legacy concept. You know, before we get into what you're doing now, I always ask persons to take us back to your roots. Can you take us back to your roots and what it was like growing up in Columbus and how did that shape who you are today?

Speaker 1:

Sure, so I grew up on the northeast part of Columbus kind of where what we know now as Easton but what I knew as mostly farmland. So it was much different than much different then than what it was today. But, as you referenced, I'm an alum of Mifflin High School, so I'm really proud of being part of the Columbus public school system. I attended Cassidy and Ennis Elementary as well as Mifflin for middle school, junior high, and it was a very transitional time. I was in school when busing started, so we went from kind of a segregated system to kind of a new system and you know there were definitely a lot of wonderful experiences and people that shaped my life. But I'm just really proud to be a Columbus native and I've been here my whole life and I love the city and I thrive in trying to make it better.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, oh yeah. You know who were some of your early influences. Maybe some teachers that help guide your values and sense of purpose.

Speaker 1:

Sure. So the first thing I want to do is give credit to my parents, my parents and my family. They are amazing and I feel I know that we talk a lot about legacy here and I'm always thinking about how I can live up to the legacy that was set up for me. As you referenced, I'm a junior and I always go out of my way to say junior, because you know Ralph Sr. He hada really great career in city government. He was once the development director for the city of Columbus. He worked for a couple of mayors right in the mayor's office, and I know that whenever I go out it's not just my name. I've got to be conscious about holding up his good name too. My mom was a teacher, so they were very helpful to have that kind of influence and a blessing, because I know not everyone has that and I've got amazing aunts and uncles. They've done great things too. So that was my, my main influence, but certainly I can think of various people that I met along the way that had an impact, especially coaches.

Speaker 3:

What sports did you play?

Speaker 1:

I was a football player, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Now you would.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well. So, um, my, my, my journey was I didn't end up having a journey that I that I had set out to have. Well, so my journey was I didn't end up having a journey that I that I had set out to have. This surprises a lot of people, but I was a very, very late bloomer. I didn't get my growth spurt until after I graduated from high school up in ninth grade, at 5'3", 103 pounds.

Speaker 1:

I knew it wasn't going to turn out the way that I wanted. And in fact, my freshman year I opted to be a team manager because I knew I wasn't going to be able to work with that. So I come back my sophomore year and I'm, you know, I probably gained three pounds and it's still the same, but I stuck with it. And you know my junior year, I think my driver's license when I was 16, it was like 5'6", 135. I thought I was getting pretty big then, and now I'm 6'2" right. So go figure, but at least you know, at least it let me. I figured that was my lesson and I better focus on the books, because I wasn't going to be playing in the NFL, right.

Speaker 3:

You know, I know also you're a strong man of faith. Can you talk about your faith journey and how that faith foundation guides you today?

Speaker 1:

Sure, so very, very blessed to have really grown up in the church. We used to fill a couple of pews at St Paul AME. Our whole family did so. It was always a family affair and that was my mom's side of the family was there and my dad's side of the family was just a couple blocks away over at Mount Vernon AME. So we had both sides of our family were kind of in that same mind and I think that, for me, faith is what keeps me glued together.

Speaker 1:

There's so many disappointments and setbacks that life presents and we all face them, but I think having faith is what keeps us all glued together and keeps us sane. And I think that that, for me, is my journey and I think it also provides guidance into our decision-making. You know, as they say, do the right thing. You know we get confronted with a lot of decisions where if you go one way you get one outcome. You go the other way, you get a different outcome. And you know, I think my faith journey has helped keep me on a road to keep me safe, keep me glued together and just try to set a good example for others.

Speaker 3:

Good stuff. You graduated from Mifflin High School. Then you went to Ohio State. Were you an active member of the Minority Moral Scholars Program? What were some defining moments during that time?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a great question. So, as we record this, we know that actually the moral program is going to continue, but a lot of the programs that were in place have been decimated with recent cuts. But two things about that. First, I met on day one some of the very best friends I have in my whole life that are still my friends today. And the very first day I walked into campus to the early arrival programs that they had back then and those are, you know, my friends for life and have had a huge impact in some of the different things I'm involved with even to this very day.

Speaker 1:

But the other thing, and the greatest blessing, was receiving a scholarship, and I always call that the great blessing of my life because I was well, I'll just say this, c's get degrees right. So you know that was definitely me as a college student, you know I have to just call it for what it is. And even in high school, you know, I was not a straight A student. I mean I probably could have been a better student than I actually was. But when I was accepted into that program and I'm going to pull out a name that you probably know, kathy Espy was one of the people interviewing me and I just remember her just saying you know, you're really really close to not being eligible for this and I got that message and I know, you know, when a lot of my friends were just doing whatever they wanted their senior year, I was buckling down to make sure I could get that so.

Speaker 1:

I count that as one of the great blessings in my life.

Speaker 1:

But the way that that really translates is that I was able to graduate without any debt and that can allow you to be a home owner and do all those other things. But even more importantly, I think that that was probably one of the key things that happened for me that really made service a priority, and this was not in any bio or anything, but one thing that I had. You know, since I was such a close call, I said you know, one day I'm going to pay them back, I'm going to pay them back. I'm going to pay them back. I'm going to pay back all these scholarships with interest and with a good friend of mine who started the Bucking the Trends Scholarship at Ohio State, I was able to pay that and you know.

Speaker 1:

Just going back to Kathy Espy, you know she passed away a few years ago, but I just had. I knew her, she's family friend and I happened to share that story with her because I don't think she knew about the scholarship part, and I just said I just want to thank you for giving me a chance and this is what I've done with it. So I hope others can follow suit.

Speaker 3:

You know you mentioned the name of the scholarship Bucking the Trend and I'm sure there's a backstory to that. What inspired that name?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. The scholarship and you know this is in flux right now with all the changes that have happened but the scholarship was awarded to young men who were active with the Todd Bell Center at Ohio State. So we were trying to get at young men that were just like ourselves. And you know the trend lines are not good for African-American men, black men of color and the trends of. You know we don't want anyone to not be able to graduate, having the ability but maybe just coming short on a few dollars to get over the finish line or having the support system to. You know, when you run into a little trouble, you're able to go to someone that can, you know, help you out. So the trend that we were trying to buck were just all those negative trends that would keep people from being successful. You know, sometimes just a little, you know, just throw a little line out, there is all that's needed and that becomes a multiplier, you know, once they get their degree and really contribute to society.

Speaker 3:

you know, once they get their degree and really contribute to society. That's good being at Ohio State. Why did you choose to major in finance insurance, and how does that field help you serve others?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that is a great question. So I want to start out by saying I had no idea what I wanted to do. I thought maybe I wanted to be in some sort of sports thing like sports, medicine or maybe engineering. But in my first year at Ohio State I realized that I didn't have the aptitude. It was either aptitude or interest or a combination of both. But I tell people that my freshman year I pulled an all-nighter pairing chromosomes. We cut out pictures of chromosomes and had to pair them together. I said I can't, I'm not interested in this. And then I took an engineering class and all we did was draw renderings of bolts and things like that. I'm like I don't care about this. So I just took a.

Speaker 1:

It was sort of a desperate move at the time because I didn't really have anyone that did anything in the private sector. Those opportunities weren't there, so I just picked finance because I thought it was the broadest. It gave me a lot of choices in case something else came up. And at the same time this was happening, I just randomly applied for a job at an insurance company to work at a call center. So I've been in insurance since I was 19 years old and I enjoyed it so much, I decided to add insurance to my major, and I'm still in that field all these years later. What a story.

Speaker 3:

What a story we we're on the podcast we always talk about. You can't be what you can't see Right Some of those areas you were talking about. If you don't see anybody, it looks like you're just in those areas, and so one of the things we try to do here is let young people know, or people know there's different areas. You know that, you know Now. You know somebody in that area Right Now. You can do that. You can do that thing. You know, Ed and Colbert, you have led inclusion and community engagement. How do you make sure those efforts have a real, lasting impact?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's hard to measure sometimes. I think that you can always look at certain data to see who you're impacting and how representation changes and if people are getting promoted or different things like that. But our numbers are not real big to begin with, so the numbers don't move. So I think that we just have to rely on stories of impact. Rely on stories of impact and you know, for me it's helping people maybe see in them things that they didn't see themselves. And sometimes if you're all alone and you don't have a place to connect with other people that have your same sensibilities, you can easily get lost.

Speaker 1:

So I think one of the things our programs do is help people connect across the organization. A lot of us are remote, so it helps people even connect across geography. And when it comes to the community, it's sort of the same thing we try to through our foundation. We try to support different causes and so forth, and just, you know, I think, the impact. You know money is great, but you know there's not enough corporate philanthropy to solve all the world's problems. We would fall very short if we, even if we, pulled all the funds together. But you know, for me impact is taking time to get to know the stakeholders, talking to them. You know, sometimes serving on boards and, at the end of the day, just being in a position to help Make connections. A lot of times we run into organizations that are doing almost the same exact thing and they're not aware of each other, so sometimes I can be a connector and help them multiply their impact.

Speaker 3:

I know in the community. You're very involved in the community, serving on a long list of community boards. Why is that investment so important to you? Why is it so important to you to be a part of those boards? Why is that investment so?

Speaker 1:

important to you. Why is it so important to you to be a part of those boards? Yeah, so, going way, way back to college or just coming out of college, I was looking at my resume and I thought this resume is not that good. It's not going to get me to the places that I want to be and of course, my resume was just the same as any other college student, so that was probably being harsh as any other college students. So that was probably being harsh.

Speaker 1:

But way back when I just set a goal for myself that I'm going to try to do one thing each year that is worthy of inclusion on my resume, and I found that service has kind of been a way to do that.

Speaker 1:

And one of the things about the boards that I've had a chance to be on is that you're contributing both time, talent and treasure. But if you are, you know you're helping that organization. You know making sure they're running right, helping them with decisions, helping them make connections to the community, meeting wonderful people that are serving alongside of you, and I've just found that to be a great multiplier and find it to be very rewarding. And I think you know for me sometimes that kind of work can help fill in gaps. I've been doing that for a long time. There's times that you get into your career where I don't know if I'm getting bored with my job or I'm ready to do something else, and sometimes all the time you get opportunities to do things that you wouldn't get to do on your day job and it can be a real career multiplier.

Speaker 3:

You know. I know you're being in a position that you're in. I know your phone rings off the hook for people. I need help. Can you do this for me? He's on his board, you know. The question becomes is what guides your decision on where to invest your time and energy?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's great. Well, the first thing I do and I have a few people that will tell me that I need to do better at this is I first I go till my calendar gets full, which isn't the best way. I try to help as much as I can, and that isn't the best thing to do, but I try to get to know and get involved with whatever calls I might be approached to do and actually and this is a little contrary to what a lot of people might say a lot of people will just jump into things where there's their passions align, and I have discovered new passions by stretching myself and getting involved in things that I would have probably not thought of myself doing. So one of the things I do is I look at who else is on the board and I'm like, hey, there might be some great people that I can make connections with board, and I'm like, hey, there might be some great people that I can make connections with.

Speaker 1:

I also will look at my own profile and say where am I deficient, what can I be better at? So I'll give you an example, and I've used this more than once, even among my colleagues I'm on the Lincoln Theater Board and I love sports and if you ask me about art I'm not really the best representation. So I said I have a deficiency here and an opportunity came to serve on that board and I thought this is a good stretch for me and now I have a whole new level of appreciation and I can also bring sensibilities to that room that I might take for granted as a insurance finance guy in a room full of people that are mostly artists. So I can help bring a little I guess diversity is how you define that to those spaces to kind of make you know, enhance outcomes.

Speaker 3:

Wow, just listening to you talk, it sounds like you were made for that diversity role, because that's kind of what you do, yeah.

Speaker 1:

As you just explained it, my career doing technical insurance roles, so I probably know more about homeowners insurance and auto insurance and things like that than some of the things I do now. But it's nice to be able to have that. You know, have things change up every now and then because it gets boring after a while.

Speaker 3:

You know you talked a lot about relationships and building those relationships. Can you share with some young people, maybe listening, how important those relationships are?

Speaker 1:

Oh gosh, yeah, Thank you for asking. So I have a couple of pillars that I sort of stand on and I think one and a lot of people who know me would agree I think it is super, super critical to cultivate relationships. When you meet someone you know in my context, you know, I don't just get a business card. I will not only follow up, maybe with a connection somewhere on LinkedIn or social media, but let's sit down and get coffee, let's learn about each other. And get coffee, let's learn about each other. And I have found that, practicing that and doing that hundreds and hundreds of times over many years, you start to get to know a lot of people and you graduate from just cultivating relationships, of being a connector, because you learn that, hey, this person has the chocolate and someone else has the peanut butter. Let's bring them together and we'll have something special.

Speaker 3:

That's good. That's good Throughout your community work. Can you share a moment when you saw a breakthrough, a real change that made you proud, when you say, yeah, I was a part of that?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's been a few. I was on the Urban League board for two terms and I can remember a time, especially when I first got to the organization, where it was hard just trying to figure out how to get, not just serve the people that we want to serve, but just be viable so we can keep going. And I was part of that board during a very transitional period when we had the annual conference but still had to deal with some legacy challenges and it's really rewarding for me, um, you know, not taking any any personal credit, but working as a team with some other really committed people to help. You know help an organization, you know thrive. You know where there's programs going on all the time and you know people are being helped and you know that's one that just you know immediately, immediately comes to mind. But I found similar opportunities in all the different places where I've been able to serve.

Speaker 3:

I know you have a demanding schedule. You know you got family board, leadership, wellness and all those things. What's your strategy for keeping it all in balance?

Speaker 1:

Well, there's a matter of debate how you know if I'm really achieving that or not. But, as I suggested earlier, you know the first thing is my calendar right. So I am a real stickler about not just putting things on the calendar but managing my calendar and not just operating like, oh, I just got an alert, it's time to go to the next place. But sitting down on Sunday evening and okay, what do I have to do this week? And being strategic and purposeful about what I can do and one priority I have I tend to prioritize people over process. So if there's an opportunity to engage with people, I'll put that up higher as a priority.

Speaker 1:

Obviously, we have to prioritize the things that our employer needs us to accomplish and I also try to prioritize things that I can have the most impact. I definitely say no. People say I probably should say no more often. But I've also been really purposeful about trying to get good at the art of making an appearance, because I think being present is really important and there are times where there are two or three things happening in the same time and you're like they all are pretty close. How do I thread the needle, make it to all three and learn how to plan that out and sometimes be able to show up in three different places with things that are happening all at the same time and satisfy all the stakeholders and go home and know that you did your best.

Speaker 3:

Then you had to go home and see white Pam. Now, yeah, she's on the calendar, we're starting all over again.

Speaker 1:

That list All over again.

Speaker 3:

All got that list. You know. As we come around the corner, let's talk about legacy and also recognition, because you received numerous awards and recognition. What do these honors represent to you?

Speaker 1:

That's a great question. So I don't get too it's always appreciated any time that every single case, any, yeah, every single case, any. In fact, I always say that if you're going to try to give me with an expectation of receiving something in return, do it because you want to do it, because you believe in the cause, but never do it because you expect someone to do something for you. So I operate that way and in those cases where you've just done your best, you've given it all and you just say, well, that's what I came here to do. If someone wants to single you out and recognize you for that, that is very, very, very meaningful and you know it really moves me.

Speaker 1:

But I certainly don't do anything with the intent for something like that to happen. But when it happens I'm surprised. There's been a few cases where someone says, hey, we want to do this. I'm like, are you sure? You know, maybe you should talk to so-and-so or do something like that. But it's always a blessing to be recognized when you really intend just to do your best and don't mind doing it in obscurity. When you really intend just to do your best and don't mind doing it in obscurity.

Speaker 3:

Amen. What does building a lifelong legacy mean to you and what do you hope your legacy will be?

Speaker 1:

Great question. So the first thing is it's my intent to be working and writing this legacy until the last day in writing this legacy until the last day, so I may not be around to see whatever last little scratch I made in making that legacy. That's going to be for others to decide if it was worthwhile or I just want to make sure I'm pushing constantly to do my best. But I suppose that a few things that I would hope are an outcome of all the efforts, few things that I would hope you know are an outcome of all the efforts. I hope that people would say, hey, you know, if I needed some advice or I could go talk to Raul, he would take the time to listen to me, he would listen. He would listen without judgment. He would ask a few questions and, you know, maybe a few nuggets in there.

Speaker 1:

I would hope that people would say, hey, he saw things in me that I didn't see in myself and as a result of that, I pursued that and my life is so much better. I hope that that would be. I would hope that, you know, he was really intentional about his time, talent and treasure and the things that he invested in and I hate talking about myself in the third person, but I think I have to do it that way that he made an impact and we appreciate that, and then hopefully, my kids will be proud of me. Hopefully they can say, hey, we saw what he did and we have an example to follow, just like I feel, like I had.

Speaker 3:

Good, good. Well, you've been reading my notes, because my next question was about the children. Yes, you know, you talked about the name earlier.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I intentionally made sure that my sons had a different name because it gets a little confusing. The first time I applied for credit, my credit file and my dad's credit file were all intermingled. Thankfully, he paid his bills so it wasn't a problem for me, but it can be a little confusing sometimes.

Speaker 3:

Think about that name. What do you want your children and their next generation to remember about? How have you added, I always talk about in a book that I wrote I remember about. How have you added, I always talk about in the book that I wrote I talk about how important the name is. I always tell young people you have to add value to the name. Right, you know someone like your dad, mom. They bless you with that name. Now you have to add value to the name. And then, secondly, you have to protect the name, right, right, you know you have to protect our name. So what would you say to, uh, in regards to that?

Speaker 1:

yeah, right, right thing. But I hope that you know, if my name is spoken in a place that I'm not at, it'll, at minimum, bring a smile to someone's face or it'll bring like, hey, you know, um, that's, that's someone we can trust, that's that's a place, just like a brand. You know. You want brands you can trust that are going to deliver for you and give you the results that you need, and that's what this association, I hope, is.

Speaker 3:

You know, as we come around the corner. Uh, I have talked to people about you.

Speaker 1:

Okay, they didn't have a, hopefully. They said nice things.

Speaker 3:

This is what this is. This is what they say about you that you're. You're a humble man, and I know that's real just from our conversation at humility. I think people really don't even know the impact that you're having in this community Cause you're not out there. You know, patting your chest or saying I'm doing this, I'm doing that, but very humble, service-minded, you know for sure All about serving a serving leader, about serving people and helping people and then being a man that's a man of his word. You know that commitment. People say I'm just telling what people say about you, dad. They say that if Ralph says he's going to do something, he's going to do it, you know, and he'll tell you. If he can't do it, you know he can't do it. And then the last thing, the most important thing I've heard, is that everything you do, you do it in an excellent way, an excellent way. There ain't no half heart about it. You know it's going to be done, done, done, done. You know in the right way. Did I get that right?

Speaker 1:

Well, I'm going to say this we might have to pause this so I can compose myself. That's, you know, that really touches my soul and you know I never, ever want anything to be about me. I want things to be about the result, and we can. All you know, we just talked about branding we can choose our brand. You know, what do you want to be associated for? You want to be a winner or you want to be a loser. You want to be a person that they, you know, they hear you're coming and they cross the street so they don't have to deal with you, or they come to see you. So I'm very, very honored and flattered and I'm just going to keep keep chopping, keep pushing, you know, and and not not try to don't get caught up into that. But I think that I get a lot of reward, more, much, much, much more reward about lifting other people up, and if that's the outcome, then I'll, I'll take it.

Speaker 3:

You have to take it, cause that's what it is. Okay, no getting around it. We'll go with that. No getting around it. Well, rabbi, I want to thank you for being on the show today. I'm thanking you for sharing your testimony and just how good God has been. You know how. You're definitely a faithful man, faith-filled man, who's been directed by the Lord, who's ordered your steps. You know, and I like, that seas get degrees. Look at what God has done.

Speaker 1:

Look at what God has done. I am really thankful. I'm really thankful for you to invite me, and when I saw the roster of all the people that preceded me, I almost wanted to say are you sure you?

Speaker 1:

want to do this, but hey, if you get the opportunity you got to run with it, fake it until you make it, if necessary. But I just really want to thank you for what you're doing, and this is a great vehicle for people to learn, to be inspired and to be part of. This is a tremendous honor and I thank you for that.

Speaker 3:

So that's all we have time for today. So we want to thank our guests and I pray that the audience receive that wisdom, some intentional nuggets that they can use on a daily walk. So thanks again, always for listening to Be A Baller Podcast. Don't forget to subscribe to the show and continue being a baller. Thanks, brad.

Speaker 1:

Thank you.

Speaker 2:

If you've enjoyed this episode, please share it with family and friends. The Be A Baller Podcast is available on all major podcast platforms. This podcast was created by Coach Tim Brown and recorded and edited by the video production class of Worthington Christian High School. Be sure to come back next week as we continue to discuss on how to build a lifelong legacy. Until then, don't forget to be a baller.